W3a2 - Descendants of Marie Marguerie

The Descendants of Marie Marguerie
W3a2 Haplogroup HVR1: 16209C 16223T 16255A 16292T 16519C - HVR2: 73G 119C 189G 195C 204C 207A 263G 309.1C 315.1C
Coding: 709A 750G 930A 1243C 1406C 1438G 2706G 3505G 4769G 5046A 5291C 5460A 7028T 8251A 8860G 8994A 11674T 11719A 11947G 12414C 12705T 14766T 15326G 15784C 15884C
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Rouen at the time of Marie's childhood
Marie Marguerie was the founder of the 'French W' haplotype lineage in America. Her descendants, through mitochondrial DNA testing after 2000, began to identify their common ancestor and link up their genealogies.

Marie was born in Rouen, France, and emigrated America in 1641. Her family members lived hard and but colorful frontier lives in New France. They survived Indian raids, fought wars with other Europeans, and faced at times near extinction of their colony. Follow the links to read the full story of Marguerie's life, that of her brother, Francois Marguerie, husbands Jacques Hertel and Quentin Moral, her son Francois Hertel, and her daughters Marguerite and Madeleine Hertel, and Marie-Jeanne, Therese, Gertrude, and Marthe Moral.


The first member of what is referred to as the W haplogroup, whom we refer to as Wilma, was born over 17,000 years ago, perhaps in the Arabian peninsula. The lineage migrated north, probably in what is now northwest India or northern Pakistan. This was a period of cold known as the Last Glacial Maximum. Migration of people further north was blocked to by extremely arid arctic deserts. As the climate began warming, around 11,000 years ago, nomadic hunters expanded into these areas, which were becoming grasslands. The existing modern W subgroups probably originated in the area between the Caspian and Aral Seas during this period.

A W3a2 subgroup with the 5291 coding region mutation and distinctive 16209 and 16255 HVR1 mutations emerged between the Caspian and Aral Seas between 12,000 and 6,000 years ago. This divided into three known main branches around 6,000 years ago, as the Kurgan culture emerged in the steppes.

The first branch (red on the map) had an additional 930 mutation. This further split into two branches around 4,000 years ago. One branch, with an additional 153 mutation, stayed in the grasslands, and is found today in modern Turkmenistan. The other branch, with the 119 and 194 mutations, spread westward across the steppes, skirting the Black Sea down to the Danube Valley, and then up the Danube into western Europe. It is reported today from Romania and Rouen, France. From Rouen, Marie Marguerie migrated to Quebec in 1641, ancestering hundreds of thousands of descendants in the United States and Canada.

The second branch (blue on the map) had mutations at positions 152 and 16192. One lineage of this branch migrated north of the Caspian and Black Seas, moved into the Ukraine and later into the Tatras Mountains of Poland / Slovakia as part of the Lemo ethnic group. A second lineage headed south, through the passes of Afghanistan, as part of the Aryan invasions, and is found today in Northern India high caste groups.

The third branch (yellow on the map), with mutations at 194, 207, 3705, 8784, and 16381 also moved south with the Aryan invasions, and is found today in Western India, again among high caste groups.

The differences in Marie Marguerie's mtDNA code, in comparison to what is known as the revised Cambridge Reference Sequence, were:

HVR1: 16209C 16223T 16255A 16292T 16519C
HVR2: 73G 119C 189G 195C 204C 207A 263G 309.1C 315.1C
Coding: 709A 750G 930A 1243C 1406C 1438G 2706G 3505G 4769G 5046A 5291C 5460A 7028T 8251A 8860G 8994A 11674T 11719A 11947G 12414C 12705T 14766T 15326G 15784C 15884C

An additional change occurred at 309.2C on one branch of the family sometime between 1710 and the present.

Here are the lineal female descendants of Marie Marguerie as identified by Haplogroup W members to date:



Here are all of the female ancestors and descendants of Marie Marguerie identified to date known to have her mtdna haplotype (in order of known or approximate birth year):
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Some images on these pages are from the film Black Robe, a portrayal of the difficult life of the Jesuit missionaries and first settlers of New France.
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